How To Use Your Empathic Gift

If you're overly worried nigh offending someone, then you're too dialed in to their feel rather than your own and you start cocky-abandoning.

– Dana Childs

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Renowned intuitive, energy healer, writer and teacher Dana Childs joins us for a powerful conversation on navigating life as an empath with ease and purpose. Dana keeps it real and applied as she helps usa empathize how to place if yous're an empath and shares tools for managing your empathic abilities. Together, we explore dissimilar types of empathy, such every bit physical, mental, emotional and relational. Whether you retrieve you might exist an empath or are looking to better understand yourself, this conversation is for you lot. When you know more about who you are, yous can share your authentic centre to all those yous love.

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Episode Transcription

Dana Childs
How can we be safe? How tin we say what we actually want and not be worried well-nigh offending someone? If y'all're overly worried nigh offending someone, then you're besides dialed in to their experience rather than your ain, and yous beginning cocky abandoning, and that's probably harder on an empath than taking on someone'southward feelings.

Vanessa Cornell
Welcome to The NUSHU Podcast. I'thousand your host, Vanessa Cornell. I invite you with love into this space to learn and abound with me. And for a brief moment of the day, come up habitation to yourself. If you think you might be an empath, this is an episode not to miss Dana Childs, an intuitive and free energy healer that knows how to keep it real and practical helps us to understand what it means to be an empath, and how nosotros every bit humans are actually wired to understand someone else's experience. She helps united states of america explore different types of empathy, concrete, mental, emotional, and relational. And most chiefly, she gives u.s. the tools to understand how to manage the world. If you lot are an empath, how to know what's yours and what's non. Tactics to ground yourself and stabilize when yous're feeling overwhelmed, and how to at the same fourth dimension both protect your energy and also keep an open heart. I cannot wait for yous to listen.

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Vanessa Cornell
Cheers then much for being with us today, Dana.

Dana Childs
Thank you so much for having me.

Vanessa Cornell
The reason I actually thought it would exist helpful to a lot of people to talk about being an empath and what that ways and what y'all do if you are or if you accept empathic qualities is considering it comes up so much comes up so much in NUSHU Group and it comes up and so much and everyone I work with that they say, I'1000 so sensitive. I accept these things in so much and particularly during COVID, particularly during a pandemic. I remember people are feeling and then much collective fear so much collected grief, if you could Dana, simply share with u.s. what does it hateful to be an empath, because information technology's people have empathy, but that'southward not the aforementioned as being an empath.

Dana Childs
So first, let me say some things I was hearing coming through as you were talking, this thought of being an empath being sensitive people finding like wow, I am sensitive, I do take everything, and I experience everything, that I think that'due south how nosotros're actually ultimately meant to live as humans are meant to live empathically we're meant to be able to just connect and know and really swoop into that intimate infinite with someone and it's been shut down for so long. I do call up the Earth is a niggling bit of a harsh identify to come at times. We have a lot of opportunities to cull love. I guess you could look at it that fashion. And so in that space, I think we're meant to be empaths we're naturally empathic and even so information technology'south been shut down. And so those of us who have like dialed in or connected enough to our humaneness to find and recognize that empathy. I think that comes in several times. forums, a lot of times, people who are very close down and don't do any emotions are actually very empathic. So think well-nigh it, when you're built-in and you lot're immature, your energy organization is actually open, your chakras are really open, whatever yous're actually sensitive at that chakra is really big. And and then then it'south just getting bombarded, and traumatized and all these dissimilar means. Then we go, close that down. And then nosotros shrink it down to stay safe. And then when you find people who are really shut down, it's ultimately if they were to do the piece of work or feel their emotions, or make it touch on with themselves, they would find they're very empathic. For example, my sis, she'due south older than me, she's like, five years older than me.

And she works equally a waitress. And she switched jobs for a short period of time and went to work at an age facility, serving meals, helping the older people in there, and she called me after the first week, and she said, Gosh, I don't know what's happening, simply my body is breaking down. She'due south like, I feel so tired, my muscles hurt, everything aches. And I said, that'southward your feeling the other people? And she said, What do you mean? And I said, physical empathy, right? Because we think of it as emotions, only it's concrete and like you're feeling the sensations like y'all're surrounded by people who have Arthritis and Inflammation and articulation pain. I was like, you lot're feeling all that? Considering aye, I go on saying like, I feel similar I'm at I'thou like, because you lot are literally feeling like you're at because that'southward what y'all're effectually. So there's a physical empathy. And this volition come through with people who they're around someone, someone, they get a headache, or a stomach anguish, or something goes off, if someone else in the vicinity has that, they'll pick up those symptoms, at that place's a period of time where my knee joint was really pain. And I idea, That's odd. I don't accept articulatio genus pain. I live iv hours from my parents, I went abode to visit my parents. And my dad was like, gosh, I've had the worst knee joint pain recently. So we're hundreds of miles away, weren't even talking. And yet what he was experiencing, I was experiencing, every bit soon as I recognized information technology was my dad said a prayer to clear it out, I was fine. And so we have to unlimit empathy to being emotional, it can be physical as well. So accept stock of like how your body and actually sets what y'all naturally experience symptom wise. So you tin can say, Oh, I'm going to the grocery store. Now my head hurts. And then the same with emotion. So people who experience overly emotional, they're feeling everything, and the people effectually them are not feeling anything, or they're very level headed or logical or calm. They're probably empathically doing everyone else'due south emotions.

Vanessa Cornell
I recall what's really important most what you said is sometimes people feel like there's something wrong with me, I have on too emotions, I'1000 as well emotional, I'yard likewise sensitive. And what y'all're proverb is, that's actually the virtually homo ideal country. And that ties into say a prayer, clear it out. But how do we sit in that near man ideal land and not experience similar oh, my god, I can't like I'1000 going to feel the pain and I'm going to feel the emotion, I'one thousand but going to become completely overwhelmed and drowned. And my survival is going to boot in, and I'm just gonna close down.

Dana Childs
Ultimately, we are energy. And and so that ways if we tin can merge with something, a feeling, a sensation that doesn't vest to us, we tin unmerge from it as well. So anything that we merge with, we tin can also unmerge the fundamental sets and being self aware, to know what emotions you lot concord in your body. What your triggers are, and what physical pains or sensations yous hold in your body and what those triggers are, when yous know that you're actually quick to place what doesn't belong, instead of condign scary, it becomes like, Oh, this isn't me just clear that out? Or am I meant to do annihilation with information technology? We want to as well recognize like am I meant to do something with this recognition that I have or not? Then nosotros tin choose when to use it or when non to use it? Empathy becomes something that we can control, we can open for it or not. And nosotros can decide if we want to be open up all the time, right? Considering that I call up is living as an ultimate empath is living in that spiritual space where at that place is no fear of merging considering there is ultimate trust in yourself a source and then you tin can ever sally. So that abiding sort of assuredness is the ultimate living and I practice call up that takes steps to get to I don't think information technology'due south similar hey just live openly I don't think that'south a safe learning runway if you volition.

Vanessa Cornell
Even that awareness is congenital over a long period of time right the bodily awareness even recognition of physical feelings or sensations that in our busy busy busy Become Become Go might just have been completely ignored. Then that's a big process to to merely exist able to be enlightened like I only felt a awareness that felt off then you get to the step of Is it mine or is it someone else's right?

Dana Childs
And what I'll say is yes, it can be this deep dive long process of figuring out it can also come from really quick ane infinitesimal a day sitting and only before anything chaos, yous only really set and you similar you literally just ask your boss To articulate and you just sit and you feel it clear out. And you can practise that with lite, or with colour washing through. And then when you get that you just say, Okay, let me scan my body top to bottom or bottom to top, whichever feels comfy. And what is it that physically I'm feeling in my body today? And and then emotionally practice a one infinitesimal browse? What emotions are sitting in here for me today? And and then what'due south at that place, so then you immediately know what'south out of place.

Vanessa Cornell
Thank you for that, Dana, because it'due south true. Sometimes information technology can feel large and scary. But sometimes it's just trivial check ins every twenty-four hour period, no large deal. Just bank check in. And sometimes the reply is, I'k non really certain. I can't really put it into words exactly. I actually took your empowered Empath course, which is beautiful. And at that place is a section where you talk about mirror neurons, right? And so talk a little bit almost the mirror neuron way of explaining what happens when you lot come in contact with somebody and that person's free energy, what's going on for them that impacts y'all?

Dana Childs
Correct, okay, so in that location is a very old dating trick, if yous really want someone's attention, and you desire them to dial into you, you mimic or mock their positioning. Then if they're sitting with their hands, yous know, here, yous would just mimic or mock that, to try to dial into their attention. It's like a footling cheek, only it really really works. And so someone'due south Oh, they're common cold, they're rubbing your arms and you lot want their attention, yous just go cold to they're going to dial in considering y'all're on that same frequency or on that same wavelength. Mirror Neurons are in the body, in the brain. And what happens is when we dial into someone, our mirror neurons kick dorsum and then that nosotros are mirroring what their experiences, nosotros mirror how they feel, nosotros mirror what they're experiencing what their emotions are. And we mirror that because nosotros're hardwired for connection. Nosotros're hardwired for empathy that's in our biology. So those mirror neurons aid usa go, I can sympathize this person's experience. So we actually then create in our trunk, the same kind of sensations, or emotions or feelings, or whatsoever that is, there'due south a woman named Dr. Judith Orloff. She's done a lot of teachings and work around mirror neurons likewise. And she has not bad resource on empathy. I love recommending her books, I didn't allow myself to read them because I never, I didn't want to re-create. But I knew when I looked at her book encompass, I was like, this is a proficient resource there, I'1000 sure there are YouTube videos, also, about mirror neurons where yous can sympathize it science, it's not just some weird woowoo, I accept a special power. We're wired to empathize someone else'southward feel.

Vanessa Cornell
Right. The way I think about information technology is that mirror neurons really, when y'all observe someone or you're effectually someone, information technology actually changes your body chemistry, like if they're happy, whatever the chemicals are firing in your body, if they're stressed, whatever those chemicals are burn in your body. And and then your intention and your thoughts can likewise change your chemistry. So if that's a way that yous experience more comfortable understanding all of this, you can contextualize it like that.

Dana Childs
That's a great way thank you for bringing that up. That's a great way to explain it.

Vanessa Cornell
And then talk a little bit virtually developing that power to stay open up, not just past avoiding the things that are tough. And I call up what you lot said to me is, you can develop a filter where you're all the mode open to the exterior, just you lot're not all the way open till the outside in.

Dana Childs
And that'southward really done through the heart space, it's besides recognizing the kinds of situations in which y'all're comfortable, some situations will produce feet, B that nosotros're being an empath or not. Then we but have to know what those anxiety producing things are. And not consider that as empathy, that in that location's actual anxiety there, I'chiliad just going to requite a really simple fiddling visual exercise, the power to keep something really open, like you tin continue your heart open, your heart should e'er be controlled by you anyway. So if there's an environment in which y'all'd like there is hard energy to bargain with, or there is even a harsh person possibly who'southward attacking or doesn't experience good. Yous should never let someone else or that event control your heart space. Y'all want to keep that open, because that'southward truthful to you. That's who you lot are. You're the one empowered with your heart and your openness. Then you can smooth that out similar a little star, just considering the stars at night, we may not go exterior and go oh stars, you're so cute. Thank you for shining because sometimes we may but we may not always the stars don't go I'm not gonna smoothen anymore. She didn't come look at me this evening. You know what I hateful? It's like, they're merely they're existence what they are. That's what they do. They shine. And so you can do that and be open. But then you tin can put this picayune bubble, it'south merely an energetic bubble around yourself and y'all can paint it any colour you like. And so that ways that other energies you don't want to get in, they stop at that, just that your energy is flowing out considering it's well intentioned, correct, it'southward heart open, it tin can flow out Then there doesn't have to be that overwhelming awareness. But I volition say also to take care of your physicality, your body in those situations. And then sometimes when we're in an overwhelming space, nosotros can find a little flake of chunk of, y'all know, real manor, or a little bit of spot that nosotros can actually but take a minute if we need a minute to reset. And that can even exist like a bathroom stall. If it needs to be information technology can be anything, but sometimes just giving ourself that breather clearing ourselves out, will permit united states to remain open instead of closing downwards. Yous tin can also keep your heart open, but shut off letting anything in, people will feel that yous tin be open, but it's like you're non letting anything in. So you're not as interactive with people's emotions.

Vanessa Cornell
Yeah. And when you say doing that, I'grand anticipating that some people are proverb, Yeah, but how do I do that? So how do I keep my centre open and then say, but you can't come in? What is the technique? What is the tool? Is it equally simple as setting that intention? Visualizing?

Dana Childs
It is setting the intention. But it's also staying actually steady in yourself. The goal of life, if we look at information technology this manner, there's lots of goals of life. Merely the goal, if we look at free energy, vibration, we call back that, oh, I want to have my vibration here. And then I need to protect that vibration. And if someone'south vibrating here, I'm vibrating here, gosh, if I spend a lot of time effectually them, they're gonna bring me down mirror neurons, everything you lot just we talked about. And so our goal is to hit a vibration in which we bump people up, we think about bringing people up rather than being brought down is to find that steadiness in the self, that real self dearest, self recognition, self esteem, where no affair how someone else shows upward, you're not rocked, you're not off balance, that you tin meet where they are, you maybe can even empathically feel where they are. But you can hold that space rather than taking it personally. So your vibration isn't impacted, right? We want to be sort of Christ or Buddha, similar in that space, where we hit that vibration, where we bump other people upwardly, they don't bump u.s.a. downward, information technology just doesn't become a possibility. And that takes practice. And it takes work. I had this enkindling moment years ago, when I was in the sort of, yous know how you practise that in and out of relationship. And then we were in and out. And I remember sitting there with premeditation and going, Gosh, he just needs to do his work. Like, if he would do XYZ, we would be okay. With it, similar a bad sign right at that place. He would do this, if he would exercise therapy, if he would, whatever, and close my eyes and went into meditation, and I heard or if you don't exercise your work, yous will be stuck with him. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I'thousand making it nigh someone else, I've got to focus on me, doing my work gets me to that different point. So when we're empathic, I practise think at that place is a space where we start to get judgmental, like, my vibration is here, and yours is here. And it will I tin can't practice this long with you or this person. But being aware of your own self, I'k empathically picking this up, only it's nearly me and my boundaries. It'south about me and what I desire to take on, information technology's near me, and why am I taking u.s. on instead of it's nearly this person having a crappy vibration.

Vanessa Cornell
People lose the plot a petty flake when they decide that they're hither, and everyone else is down hither. And it's like, you've lost the plot a trivial bit when you start setting yourself apart from your human-ness.

Dana Childs
It's true, but we also accept to know and give recognition. Whenever someone starts, any of us ourselves included a spiritual journeying, there is a phase of ego that we go through. It but is it'south role of sort of the progression of information technology. And so there is a space of similar, Oh, I'm feeling judgmental, or I'g in my ego. And I'thou not it is a forming up of the spiritual cocky. I don't think it'due south incorrect. It'southward more than like I look at it like the terrible twos.

Vanessa Cornell
Yep. And then I desire to bear upon again, a petty bit on this sort of sense of collective grief. Right? So we talked a little bit nearly, oh, that tum anguish isn't mine, that feeling isn't mine, the mirror neurons, but what about the sort of collective energy and I know that my girl who's very empathic, and sometimes doesn't know what to do with it feels like, nobody understands me. Similar, why am I like this? This is so hard for me. I don't know why I'm upset. I don't know why I can turn on a dime and my mood. I'g like, I know why. And then I'one thousand trying to help her understand that this is both a claiming and a gift. Merely I know that at the start of the pandemic, she was overwrought. And she couldn't empathize why. And I really feel strongly that she was feeling in her trunk, the commonage grief and the collective fear. And then talk a piffling bit about that, how information technology works. And and so if you're a person who is impacted in that fashion, what you can do to keep yourself both condom, and also not shut down in gild to keep yourself safe.

Dana Childs
The style I see information technology energetically is I envision like my own sort of energy field, so as the plummet I envision it like a river. And I tin cull to let that river run through me or not. And if I start to experience sort of anxious and panicky before that pandemic, I had all this weird feet, I didn't know what I was feeling. But sometimes I feel things earlier they happen. And I had this weird kind of like, move, something just doesn't feel correct. And and then certain enough, at all hits, information technology'south like, oh, that'southward what I'm feeling. And and then once at that place was a recognition, I was like, Oh, I'grand gonna movement that river, I'thou gonna let that flow, I'm gonna allow Source Energy God energy, universe, energy, any word is comfy, I'm going to let that energy hold that collective considering that'due south where information technology needs to be. It doesn't need to run through me, that doesn't serve me, I tin be aware of the river and help go on the river from flooding without being in it. So that visualization helped me tremendously. And then I call up whenever y'all accept the sensation of the panic, or the grief coming in from outside, yous but envision it like a river, stride out of information technology, motility out of it, or pull information technology out of you and run it elsewhere.

Vanessa Cornell
Yeah, I really had a moment myself where the collective weight of the grief in the suffering felt unbearable. And what was interesting was, the magnitude of information technology is what freed me of it, because it was like, at that place has e'er been this much suffering in the world. Plainly, this is a moment in time, but there has always been and I have ever merely been one person. So I do what I do in my corner of the worlds, and I acknowledge it, just I don't try and acquit it considering we can't, there's something bigger that needs to carry that.

Dana Childs
Exactly. Those of us who are like dialed in, nosotros're aware that we're empaths. And we're like, a little overwhelmed by it, or we're anxious, and nosotros don't recognize ourselves as an empath. But a lot of times, I do remember that'southward what anxiety is. It'south non in the brain, or chemical. I think that a lot of us wired this way as empaths are overly responsible. And so in our childhoods, right, in her upbringing in our lives, nosotros've learned to exist overly responsible for other people's feelings or other people's happiness. And and so and so when the collective is unhappy, and we feel that it is crushing, because we're going, Oh, my gosh, what do I do? How practise I do, there'south a helplessness disempowered feeling that comes in. And actually, information technology'due south okay, like when the whole pandemic started happening, I couldn't get that sort of commonage thing. And finally, I but went, I am one person, how am I called upon what a source calling upon me to do an offer in this, maybe it's to get groceries for my neighbour, it was to teach a class and exercise some fun stuff around that. Just information technology's like, listen to that personal calling, considering that everyone does that. That'due south how we starting time to shift the commonage around us. That's how we shift that kind of consciousness.

Vanessa Cornell
It's really interesting, because I know that what y'all talked nearly, information technology'south like the people who are feeling the most responsible and also feel the most helpless. I've also seen that the people who are the almost sensitive, often are the aforementioned people who are drawn to be of service. So they're the same people who say, beingness around other people's emotions, and beingness effectually other people on their journeying and hearing about it impacts me deeply and is hard for me to hold. Just I also desire to go do that. I also want to go put myself in that position. And I see this in NUSHU Group Facilitator Training a lot. People who are really drawn to the work volition also say, I'm a lilliputian afraid that if I hold infinite for these eight people, and they share what's in them, it'southward going to overwhelm me. And so talk a petty bit about that the sort of the people who are both drawn to it, and impacted past information technology the most.

Dana Childs
We're to it, because that'due south the recognition of who we are, and will be set up up for that in babyhood will have dysfunctional families or volition have irresponsible parents are in that people pleaser, or that manner of how tin I take care of what'due south not happening? So nosotros're like a moth to the flame. nosotros're fatigued to that. But our spirit chooses that kind of incarnation, those families those experiences that education, because our sole purpose lies in service and in helping others information technology'due south a caretaking healer, I'll say information technology's a healer mentality. Information technology's a healer being. And so at that place's the recognition of that sense of cocky as a healer that comes in. And so when that comes in, we're just we can't stop it. It's who we are. Nosotros tin can't get away from it. And so then if we're not doing it, we feel that NACA, unfulfilled and if we are doing information technology, we feel overwhelmed. And the respond there is to come into how practise I do this and residual myself care because I do recollect as a healer mentality, which is often what impacts Are, and so what happens is we're giving it away and nosotros experience depleted. And then we get tripped into that disempowered Empath, or victim manner. And instead, information technology's like, I actually desire to give to you lot, I tin't actually do it well, until next week, I actually feel chosen to serve. But I can serve on this day, not this day. It's actually having those kinds of boundaries, the cocky care tactics and techniques, every bit well as listening to that service call. I retrieve beingness approached by a group ane fourth dimension and they said, We want you to come and do sessions for us and readings for us. But we demand yous to do like six to eight in a day. And I responded, and I said, this is a great opportunity. I can do for Max after that I'm not it's not good. And I don't want to be my less than best for someone. And that'south a mode to answer the call of service, but have the boundaries around it, where yous're taking care of yourself, y'all accept to fill up your well, right or it runs dry.

Vanessa Cornell
And I think people sometimes remember of self care as baths and massages and that kind of thing. And I recollect what you lot're saying is boundaries, are real self intendance, proverb no, is existent self care, agreement what works and what doesn't, and what'southward going to feel depleting and what's going to be aligned.

Dana Childs
Yep, 100%, yous really take care of yourself, and y'all have the boundaries that you need, when we're being honest, in a really caring way. And our words are being actually energetically charged through our open heart space, and then we create this safety place of connection, where that condom attachment. And that's what we're really looking for, how can we be safe? How can we say what we actually want, and not exist worried virtually offending someone. If y'all're overly worried about offending someone, then you lot're besides dialed in to their feel rather than your own, and you start self abandoning, and that'southward probably harder on an empath than taking on someone'southward feelings.

Vanessa Cornell
Aye. And then I know that you similar me, were living a life that was not what y'all wanted. And yous knew when you took a journeying, and you lot went to India, and you studied with teachers, and you discovered these gifts that you accept. And so I wonder if you lot could simply talk about this thought of people's gifts, this idea of someone's listening and things, I don't have any gifts of tapping into who you are and what y'all have to offer in that process, and how it might look for different people.

Dana Childs
Yeah, so we all have gifts. And if you are out there right at present thinking, I don't have gifts, or I don't really do anything psychic, or, you know, intuitive, like you're wrong, I just flat out proverb that I learned every bit a teacher, because I taught public school for like eight years, seven years, I learned the teacher never to say you're incorrect, similar it'due south really harsh. Simply I will say if you think you lot have no intuitive guests, you are wrong. So nosotros all have them. That's why we're here is to find these special guests and utilize them not but for ourselves, but for the earth around us because we all not only have gifts that other people have, but nosotros all have a special unique gift that no one else has that only we have that but we can do. I exercise think we're all wired for empathy, I do think nosotros are all empathic. So gifts, I visually see them sitting in certain chakra free energy centers. And so our root chakra, right that place at our hips, that connects downwardly through our legs and feet. That's the place where we concur concrete empathy, we connect into other people'south physical feelings, then nosotros motion up and we have emotional empathy. And that's similar in the abdomen area, and the sex organs. And that's where we have emotional empathy, nosotros can feel other people's feelings. And and then nosotros move upwardly into the third chakra, which is more stomach, pancreas, digestive organ, that's where we take the souvenir of mental empathy, which gets overlooked. But if you're like a great employee, and you lot know how your dominate thinks, and how they're gonna desire, everything laid out, similar you can just read their mind, y'all're using a gift. That'southward a souvenir of mental empathy when you're talking to someone and like, Oh, I know what she's gonna say, side by side. I know how our mind works, or I know what my partner's thinking similar, I know what he's gonna say, when I bring up Oh, I'd dear to practise this vacation. That'due south mental empathy. It'south a gift, y'all're using a gift, which is a actually overlooked one, and quite a fun one. And and then there is that gift of free energy healing that sits in our hearts, that gift of the power to also send out relationships. You go to a party dorsum in the day, where you're on a zoom political party, and y'all realize, oh, and so like and so and so just she doesn't know it and he is liked past her just he doesn't know you know, or Ooh, they're together and they're not telling anyone they're together. You can just sense those relationships. That'southward a relational empathy and it's in the heart space and and so we get into the gifts in the 5th chakra where we have articulate audience we can hear conspicuously. We tin can also taste articulate information and we can aroma clear information and then similar you odour cigarette But no one smoking, maybe that's as deceased spirit. Right? That's a souvenir. And then you accept clairvoyance. So yous tin meet you can have images, mayhap yous have dreams, peradventure you see things with your open optics, or you close your eyes and encounter it in your mind'due south eye, or you can run across the future. There'due south then many more like they but keep going. So there's all these gifts. And I think sometimes people are utilizing gifts, and they're so second nature to them, don't realize that they're using guests.

Vanessa Cornell
Yeah. And I think that there are a lot of people who asked me, How do I know if it'due south intuition? Or if it'south feet? How do I trust myself? And I think that sense of being kind to yourself is a big cistron.

Dana Childs
Yes, information technology's a huge gene. I will say, when you feel overwhelmed by anxiety, first, you want to become into your nervous system, considering this is how you can tell the difference, correct? You showtime get into your nervous system, then be that that yous take a minute you close your optics, and you just do deep breathing. The box breath with four in agree for four, iv out hold for for that done three to 5 times or for a minute, is going to help reset your nervous system. So that's step one is getting to that. And then one time that'due south reset, then you lot go quiet for threescore seconds and practise that body clearing where y'all ask what is not mine, I need it to get out and go please leave me with only what's mine, then you're left with what may actually exist anxiety, or with clarity of like, wow, that was just was weird. That wasn't me. And if you're left with his anxiety, so you get, Okay, I need to keep focusing on my nervous system and calm the nervous arrangement downward. And so there yoga postures for that, specifically, there are meditation techniques, there are breathing techniques, sometimes just walking, just being in a serenity space and taking out noise pollution, and visual pollution can help. So anything that helps calm your nervous system tin bring you out of anxiety, and reset you dorsum into your intuitive self.

Vanessa Cornell
Yeah, that's wonderful. A couple of other questions I want to become to and we don't have too much fourth dimension. So perhaps we'll practice a fiddling flake of a speed round here. Practise you think that remembering and following themes you loved every bit a kid is a good identify to starting time to look for your gifts? So for example, I used to pretend I had energy shooting out of my hands equally a child, I've been studying Reiki as an adult, no idea if I'm on the right path sounds similar information technology?

Dana Childs
Aye, is the answer. We're more than connected to our natural, accurate self when we're young, because we're not yet forming up how nosotros have to be who nosotros recollect we should exist. So we're still in love with ourselves, our real self, for some that can get away quite early for others that tin stick around. And and then then to get back into what that was, that can actually clue united states of america in, when I was eight 910 1112. I would literally play school all the time, my mom was a teacher. And she would bring habitation teacher workbooks and I would set my schoolhouse in the attic, and I had all my stuffed animals and my roster I would call attendance, I would teach all about science and flowers and pistols and statements. I don't know how I even recollect that I taught it. I taught information technology when I was in 5th grade. So it was that natural infinite. And then, of course, I was like, I'll never exist a teacher. At present. I'm like, Oh, this is exactly what I dear to do. So we do recollect that nosotros connect back into what those gifts are. I also call up having this real connection with animals growing upward, like I merely wanted to exist around them. I knew what they were thinking and feeling. And so when I took an animal communication class years and years ago, it came so naturally. And I was similar, Oh, I've always washed this. We're reminded of who we are. And information technology will come back. And then if yous're having you're stumped, you're having problem with your guests, by all means, await back at your childhood, what did you experience pulled to? How did you lot feel pulled there and then regain that reconnect to that?

Vanessa Cornell
Yeah. Then how practise I rest wanting to hang out or spend time with friends and family but besides wanting to protect my peace, I miss social gatherings people miss me a lot. Just I like to preserve my free energy and don't desire people to feel similar I don't love them.

Dana Childs
Then I would say that'southward where you have to actually solar day by day punch in to what feels practiced, right for yous, to protect that space. But to give yourself that connectedness that we are social creatures, even if we're empaths. And introverts, we are very social creatures. And and then if we go without that for too long, our wiring can get off, our nervous system tin get off, nosotros need that. So I would say to button yourself sometimes put yourself out in that surround and work on your boundaries while y'all're in the surround. And then know when you demand a break. No, when you lot're done, I ofttimes will go Gosh, I don't actually desire to be around people like I'chiliad so practiced near myself. And then I will make myself like go talk to a neighbour go practise something and so I feel this energy by it. And I'll come up back and get Gosh, I'grand really glad I did that fifty-fifty though I don't desire to information technology'southward like going to the gym sometimes. Where it's like the worst matter y'all could possibly think up. Just once you become to, like, feel then great. So I would say to button for that residue, but read your torso and read your mindset when you're in it and know when you demand to be done and honor that.

Vanessa Cornell
Yep, I take the same thing. If I pre COVID, when we used to take friends over for dinner, I would dread it, I would have a feeling of dread in my body, and I would button myself through. And then I would exist with my friends. And I would say this feels then skilful and wonderful. Even so, I always had the same feeling of dread when I was going to some obligatory dinner with people I didn't actually like. And that's my boundary. I know that one time I push through the feeling of dread, information technology's going to feel wonderful and warm, or after I push through the feeling of dread, it's going to experience depleting and horrible. I'm just gonna desire to go out of there. We but have a couple minutes left, I want to touch on two things. One is your book, because I know you're talking about your chakras. And your book has to do with the chakras, which is super heady. So tell the states for a second near that.

Dana Childs
Yeah, then the book is co authored with my friend Cindy Dale, and information technology'southward called Chakras, Food, and You. So oddly, I never ready out to write a book near food. Not my specialty. Only the fashion we structured the volume, information technology just came to be that we have this absurd petty quiz that you lot accept, and y'all figure out your energy type, you figure out which chakra of we exercise 12 Chakra is non seven. And so your 12 chakras is your strongest. And then based on that, it's similar how do you all-time be yourself for your optimal weight? And how do y'all best take intendance of yourself with meditation and mindful techniques. And the really cool affair is, we break down what the special intuitive gift is for each center. And we give developmental exercises for how to use that souvenir in your everyday life, and how to use that souvenir to apply it to select your food that's going to nurture your torso. So the really absurd thing is if you take the quiz and you go, Oh, I'm this type of person, similar I'm actually a seventh chakra type spiritualist is the 7th chakra, then you go simply, but I also want to know about similar this gift of channeling and the fifth chakra, then yous can go read that chapter on the gifts.

Vanessa Cornell
What are some resources you recommend? And where do yous start? If you're similar, I am interested in this, I want to access my gifts. I'm not sure where to start, what'due south a skillful starting place for someone to just go and await at some resources too your empowered Empath course, which I highly recommend.

Dana Childs
Yep, the Empowered Empath class is a great start, I would say there's an old book by Sonia Choquette. And information technology's called the psychic pathway. And it only does the seven chakras. But she writes it in similar a workbook kind of way where yous can help figure out like where your chakras are open or closed. I do remember that's a skillful resources. Only so I would say to simply Google like intuitive gifts, psychic gifts, read what they are, and trust your body on which ones you lot feel pulled to. And then Google resources because they're gifts that nosotros forget, like animal communication is a really absurd souvenir, correct? Then I would say to go, oh, no, I'thou really interested in mediumship, Google mediumship. And wait at what comes up there so that you're directing yourself. Simply if you want a good overview, the avant-garde energy healing course is the course that I'm education. That'south probably the best overview I currently know upwards for the gifts. Cindy Dale does a lot of piece of work. Her books tend to be resources reference sort of things. Simply she does practise the 12 chakras. And she does take books on the gifts besides, she's a bang-up resource. Then I would say start there, simply trust your body to get. Well, I'thousand excited near this thing. Read upwards on that.

Vanessa Cornell
Thank you lot, Dana. And I would say that in putting together all of the speakers that I bring into NUSHU, and putting together the NUSHU Thought Leader Series, because there are and so many people out at that place, there is then much content out there, I really just depended on what made my heart feel full, which people I simply felt came so deeply from a identify of eye that it just couldn't exist bad, it couldn't be wrong, it couldn't exist useful, it couldn't exist loving. And then I would also encourage people to trust yourself.

Dana Childs
I would say as well, I really feel called to say this, is you're going to feel yous'll sometimes feel called to a teacher or pulled to a teacher, and permit that pull to happen. And sometimes you won't, and that's okay. It doesn't mean anything at all. It'due south just you find a resonance. And and so when you lot have this teacher, permit yourself to take in the information non as the truth, only as an idea. And and so you idea that through because it may land with your gift and get expressed in a dissimilar way. Or it might be an evolution of a educational activity. So not to make what someone says the end all be all for any teacher, myself definitely included. Only like this kind of resonates. And I'm going to think virtually or this doesn't resonate, and I'm not going to retrieve about that. But to just allow yourself to come up and go.

Vanessa Cornell
Thank you Dana. Give thanks you for being with united states I always dearest chatting with y'all and sharing your wisdom and knowledge and insight and inspiration and free energy.

Dana Childs
Thanks so much.

Vanessa Cornell
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